"Tex Hall and Cecilia Fire Thunder both lost their tribal elections. I guess their tribes didn't want good leaders. I remember Tex Hall as a very articulate man who stood up for Indian rights. He was a friendly guy, shaking hands every time I saw him on the national scene. With him being such a great national leader, he more than likely let the home politics go and it cost him. Cecilia Fire Thunder was way too far ahead of the times and the Sioux weren't ready for her. I meet her in an elevator in Albuquerque, New Mexico and she told me that I looked like I had a lot on my mind. She was right because I had lost my Mom right before that time. She, too, was a friendly woman who didn't put on the dog. I guess that's what I liked about both of them--they were big-shots with down to earth values and didn't act like they were better than others. Their tribes have lost, but don't know it, I guess."